Tamiya 1/32 F4U 1 Corsair

Âîò ïî÷åìó ÿ íå ëþáëþ ðîññèéñêèå ìîäåëüíûå ôîðóìû. Êàêàÿ ïðåëåñòü! Íà ðîññèéñêîì ôîðóìå çàÿâëÿòü î ñâîåé íåëþáâè ê ðîññèéñêèì ôîðóìàì. Ïðÿìî êàê â "Îáûêíîâåííîì ÷óäå" - "Âû òðè äíÿ ãíàëèñü çà ìíîé? - Äà! ×òî áû ñêàçàòü, êàê Âû ìíå áåçðàçëè÷íû".

Ñîãëàñåí ñ Âÿ÷åñëàâîì
Äàâàéòå ñðàçó íà÷í¸ì âîò ñ ÷åãî.
Ìîäåëü ìíå ïîíðàâèëàñü, ñäåëàíî íà 5.
È â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå äëÿ âàñ ýòî ñàìàÿ ëó÷øàÿ ìîäåëü, ïîòîìó ÷òî îíà ñäåëàíà âàìè.
Íî âûñòàâëÿÿ ìîäåëü íà ôîðóì, âû â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå ãîòîâüòåñü ê òîìó ÷òî âàñ ìÿãêî è íåíàâÿç÷èâî, ïðåäâàðèòåëüíî ïîõâàëèâ, îá ñòîë ìîðäîé ïîñòó÷àò.
Íàéä¸òñÿ ÷åëîâåê êîòîðûé çíàåò ìàò÷àñòü ëó÷øå, èëè ñ÷èòàåò ÷òî çíàåò.
Íî âñå æå ðóññêèé ôîðóì ëó÷øå, çäåñü ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå äóøîé íå êðèâÿò.

À âàì ñîâåò, ïðåæäå ÷åì ïèñàòü, ïîñìîòðèòå ôîòî.
ïðàâèëüíî âñ¸ òåáå íàïèñàëè, íèøè íó íèêàê íå áåëûå, ïðåæäå ÷åì ïèñàòü, ãëÿíü ïåðâóþ ïðèêëååííóþ òåìó â ýòîì ïîäôîðóìå.
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ïñ: è äà, íà ïðèâåä¸ííûõ òîáîþ æå ôîòî ïîêàæè ìíå áåëûå íèøè.

Äåäà, òû ïîïóòàëñÿ.
Êóäà ÷èòàòü ïðàâèëüíî ? :cool:

Èòàê ïî öâåòàì ïîòðîõîâ Êîðñàðîâ:
1. Ðàííèå Êîðñàðû ñ "ïòè÷üåé êëåòêîé" êàáèíà ìîãëà áûòü èëè ÷åðíîé, èëè Dull Dark Green. Îñòàëüíûå âíóòðåííîñòè âêëþ÷àÿ íèøè øàññè è êàïîò - Salmon, ñòâîðêè íèø Light Grey èëè White.
2. F4U-1A êàáèíà Interior Green, âñå, ÷òî âûøå áîêîâûõ êîíñîëåé - ìàòîâûé ÷åðíûé îñòàëüíîå, âêëþ÷àÿ íèøè -Yellow Zinc Choromate, ñòîéêè Light Gull Gray èëè Aluminum Lacquer íèøè òàêæå ìîãëè áûòü áåëûå èëè ñèíèå, â çàâèñèìîñòè îò îêðàñêè ñàìîëåòà.
3. F4U-1D êàáèíà Interior Green, âñå, ÷òî âûøå áîêîâûõ êîíñîëåé - ìàòîâûé ÷åðíûé, íèøè Interior Green, ñòîéêè Light Gull Gray èëè Aluminum Lacquer. Íèøè, ñòîéêè è äèñêè êîëåñ íà ðåìîíòíûõ ìàøèíàõ îáû÷íî ïåðåêðàøèâàëè â GSB.
4. F4U-4 êàáèíà è ïîòðîõà Interior Green, çà èñêëþ÷åíèåì ïðèáîðêè è áîêîâûõ êîíñîëåé â êàáèíå êîòîðûå áûëè ÷åðíûìè. Íèøè òàêæå ìîãëè áûòü ñèíèìè.
5. F4U-5/7 êàáèíà - êîíñîëè è áîðòà ââåðõ îò êîíñîëåé ÷åðíûå, îñòàëüíîå Interior Green. Íèøè Gloss Sea Blue ñòîéêè - àëëþìèíèåâûé ëàê èëè GSB

Ñ óâàæåíèåì,
Ñåðãåé.

Äîáàâëåíî ñïóñòÿ 9 ìèíóò 50 ñåêóíä:

Òîëüêî ñåãîäíÿ óâèäåë ïîñëåäíèé "ôè" îò iiks,íî õî÷åòñÿ âîçðàçèòü. 1. Íèøè áûëè áåëîãî öâåòà ïî ãðóíòó.
2. "Çàä"- ñòâîðêè áûëè áåëûå. 3. Ôîòî ïîêàçûâàåò, ÷òî îáäèð íà êðûëå áûë è íà "êîâðèêàõ". 4. Ïîòåêè ìàñëà, òîïëèâà, ñëåäû íàãàðà ïîêàçàíû óìåðåííî, êàê ÿ ýòî äåëàþ íà ñâîèõ ìîäåëÿõ, òîæå êàñàåòñÿ è øàññè. Â íèøàõ øàññè ïîêàçàíû âñå ýëåìåíòû. Íó à ïî ýëåðîíàì åñòü êîíêðåòíûå ôîòî.

À âàì ñîâåò, ïðåæäå ÷åì ïèñàòü, ïîñìîòðèòå ôîòî.

Ìîäåëü ïîíðàâèëàñü.


Áåëûé öâåò â íèøàõ, îøèáêîé íå áóäåò.
 USN êðàñèëè ýòè îáëàñòè â áåëûé öâåò ïîñëå ðåìîíòà .

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Âîò åù¸ èíòåðåñíàÿ âûäåðæêà ïî ïîâîäó îêðàñêè :

"Vought F4U Corsair

Sorting out the interior colours of the Corsair is particularly tricky. For the F4U-1 Birdcage Corsairs, photos taken at the time show the cockpits being a very dark colour, most probably black. Analysis of some crashed examples of F4U-1s indicates black, while the factory Erection & Maintenance Instructions called for Dull Dark Green.

As mentioned before, early production Corsairs had their interior surfaces in areas other than the cockpit covered with Salmon primer. This colour mixture was used relatively long into Corsair production. It would seem that all F4U-1s and a number of early F4U-1As were finished this way.

Somewhere during the production of F4U-1A model Vought discontinued the use of Salmon primers and switched to Zinc Chromate Yellow with cockpits in Interior Green.

In the engine cowling area, Vought adhered to the practice of painting its inner surface the same colour as the underside, ANA 602 Sky Gray on early F4U-1s, ANA 601 Insignia White on F4U-1As.

The wheel wells of early model Corsairs deserve closer inspection. Like the cowlings, the main wheel wells, undercarriage legs and both sides of well covers were painted in the underside camouflage colour, ANA 602 Non-specular Sky Gray. Wheel hubs were silver. However, the smaller forward area of the wheel to which the leg itself retracted was left in the factory primer finish, Salmon. Some aircraft had also Salmon inner surfaces of the small covers attached to the undercarriage legs.

The canvas covers in the wells were probably drab-coloured.

With the advent of the tri-colour camouflage on F4U-1A the same principle was applied with white replacing the Sky Gray with ANA 601 Non-specular Insignia White, and the However, the undercarriage legs remained grey throughout the production of this model, possibly due to the failure or indifference to notify a subcontractor about changed colour specifications. For the record, some photos of -1As seem to show silver undercarriage legs, but it could not be established to what extent such finish was applied. One theory is that Aluminium lacquer was applied on these assemblies during field depot overhauls.

In October 1944 the new factory instructions for the F4U production called for application of Interior Green on all internal surfaces including the cockpit. As an anti-glare measure, all cockpit panels above the lower edge of the instrument panel were to be painted matt black. Curiously, the new directive did not explicitly state what was to happen with the cowling's inner surface. Thus, subsequent machines showed either Zinc Chromate or Interior Green cowlings, until the last standardisation of colour post-war whereupon black was introduced in this area.

During that period, the wheel wells were also painted Interior Green. Undercarriage legs were initially still finished in light grey, but as existing stocks of parts were used up at the factory, the overall Glossy Sea Blue finish was carried over to the undercarriage legs and wheel hubs."

Êóäà ÷èòàòü ïðàâèëüíî ?
Ïîä öèôèðêîé îäèí âàùåò

Êóäà ÷èòàòü ïðàâèëüíî ?
Ïîä öèôèðêîé îäèí âàùåò

Òàê â òîì òî è äåëî , ÷òî è "2" ïîä ñîìíåíèåì .

Âåäü ðàçíèöà ìåæäó F4U-1 Birdcage è F4U-1A ýòî ñìåíà ãðóíòà , â ñìûñëå, íàíåñåíèå (ñòâîðêè è íèøè) îñòàëîñü ïðåæíåå.

Ç.Û.

Ñìûñë íàïèñàííîãî çàêëþ÷àëñÿ â òîì , ÷òî ëó÷øå áû âåùàòü ðàçâ¸ðíóòîé èíôîðìàöèåé , à íå âûä¸ðãèâàòü öèòàòû èç ôîðóìà.

Ñìûñë íàïèñàííîãî çàêëþ÷àëñÿ â òîì , ÷òî ëó÷øå áû âåùàòü ðàçâ¸ðíóòîé èíôîðìàöèåé , à íå âûä¸ðãèâàòü öèòàòû èç ôîðóìà.
Ýòî õîðîøî, íî íå ñîâñåì ïîíÿòíî èç âàøåãî ïåðâîãî ñîîáùåíèÿ

Ñìûñë íàïèñàííîãî çàêëþ÷àëñÿ â òîì , ÷òî ëó÷øå áû âåùàòü ðàçâ¸ðíóòîé èíôîðìàöèåé , à íå âûä¸ðãèâàòü öèòàòû èç ôîðóìà.
Ýòî õîðîøî, íî íå ñîâñåì ïîíÿòíî èç âàøåãî ïåðâîãî ñîîáùåíèÿ
Îê.
Íåìíîãî ïîäèòîæó òîãäà.

Àâòîð ìîäåëè íå äîïóñòèë îøèáêè ñ íèøàìè , íà êîòîðóþ åìó óêàçàëè.
×òîáû ýòî ïîíÿòü, òðåáóåòñÿ íåìíîãî ïîòðàòèòü âðåìåíè è óãëóáèòñÿ â âîïðîñ. :wink:

F4U-1 èç îçåðà Ìè÷èãàí â ïåðâîçäàííîì âèäå.

Ïðîáëåìà ýòîé îêðàñêè â òîì, ÷òî íà áðþõå ó íåãî íå áûëî áåëîãî öâåòà, òàê êàê ýòè "åäèíè÷êè" ïåðåêðàøåíû èç áîëåå ðàííåé äâóõöâåòíîé ñõåìû Blue Grey over Light Grey äîáàâëåíèåì Sea Blue ïî âåðõíèì ïîâåðõíîñòÿì. Òî åñòü ýòî íå êëàññè÷åñêàÿ áîëåå ïîçäíÿÿ òðåõöâåòíàÿ ñõåìà ñ Insignia White íà ïóçå.

[quote="iiks"] Íî åñëè âûñòàâèëè áóäüòå ãîòîâû ê êðèòèêå.
Ïðåäëàãàþ ñåé äèñïóò ïðåêðàòèòü â ñèëó åãî ïîëíîé áåñïåðñïåêòèâíîñòè.

Ïîðà ïîäâåñòè ÷åðòó, óæ êîëè ñ ìåíÿ íà÷àëàñü ýòà ÷åõîðäà. ß ãîòîâ ïðèíèìàòü êðèòèêó, åñëè îíà ñïðàâåäëèâà, íî áóäó è âïðåäü âîçðàæàòü, åñëè ÿ çíàþ, ÷òî ÿ ïðàâ.
Âñåì ñïàñèáî, Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Ëåâ.

Ìîäåëü â öåëîì ïîíðàâèëàñü.
Ïî íèøàì âîïðîñ, äà, èíòåðåñíûé (ñàì ïðèãëÿäûâàþñü ê ýòîìó àïïàðàòó).
Ïîëàãàë, ÷òî "ðîçîâûé" ïîëó÷àåòñÿ â ðåçóëüòàòå íàïûëåíèÿ áåëîé êðàñêè íà ãðóíò êðàñíîãî îòòåíêà.
Ïîíÿë, ÷òî íàäî åù¸ ïîêóðèòü òåìó.

... Íî åñëè âûñòàâèëè áóäüòå ãîòîâû ê êðèòèêå
...
Äóìàþ, ìàëî êîìó ïîíðàâèòñÿ åñëè êðèòèêà íà÷èíàåòñÿ ñ íàåçäîâ.
Êàê òàì ó Ìàðêà Òâåíà
- Ïðàâäó ñëåäóåò ïîäàâàòü òàê, êàê ïîäàþò ïàëüòî, à íå øâûðÿòü â ëèöî, êàê ìîêðîå ïîëîòåíöå (ñ). :wink: