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Ñ òîãî ìîìåíòà êàê ÿ íàøåë ôèãóðó è äî òîãî, êàê å¸ ïîêðàøåííóþ íóæíî áûëî ñäàâàòü íà êîíêóðñ îñòàâàëîñü íå áîëåå ïÿòè äíåé. Íóæíî áûëî äåéñòâîâàòü áûñòðî è áåçîøèáî÷íî.

Ôèãóðà îðêà

Ïîäãîòîâêà

Çäåñü áûëî âñå ïðîñòî è íè÷åãî íîâîãî ÿ, ïîæàëóé, íå ñìîãó ðàññêàçàòü âàì. Òåì íå ìåíåå, êîðîòêî ïðîáåãóñü ïî êëþ÷åâûì ìîìåíòàì â ðàáîòå ñ ôèãóðêîé.
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Òàê êàê ôèãóðà ïîïàëà â ìîè ðóêè óæå êåì-òî ñîáðàííîé è îêðàøåííîé, â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü ìíå ïðåäñòîÿëî å¸ ðàçîáðàòü è èçáàâèòüñÿ îò ñòàðîé êðàñêè. Âîñïîëüçîâàâøèñü ðàñòâîðèòåëåì äëÿ öèàíîàêðèëàò-êëåÿ, ÿ îòäåëèë ïîñîõ. Ôèãóðêà ìåòàëëè÷åñêàÿ, ïîýòîìó ÿ ñìåëî å¸ ïîãðóçèë â ðàñòâîðèòåëü íà íî÷ü, à óòðîì ñòàðîé çóáíîé ùåòêîé ïðîøåëñÿ ïî ðåëüåôó, ÷òî áû îêîí÷àòåëüíî èçáàâèòüñÿ îò îøìåòêîâ íå äî êîíöà ðàñòâîðèâøåéñÿ êðàñêè. Çàòåì ÿ ïîäãîòîâèë âðåìåííûå ïîäñòàâî÷êè äëÿ ïðîöåññà îêðàøèâàíèÿ è çàêðåïèë íà íèõ äåòàëè ñêóëüïòóðû; îðêà è åãî ïîñîõ. Ìàñêèðóþùåé ëåíòîé îò Tamiya ÿ çàêðûë ìåñòà áóäóùåãî ñîåäèíåíèÿ äåòàëåé, ÷òî áû íå ïîêðûòü èõ ãðóíòîì è/èëè êðàñêîé.
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Ôèãóðà êðàéíå äåòàëèçèðîâàííàÿ. ß íå ñòàë ðèñêîâàòü è ñðàçó æå îòêàçàëñÿ îò íàíåñåíèÿ ãðóíòà ïðè ïîìîùè àýðîçîëè, çàìåíèâ å¸ ñòðàâëåííûì áåëûì ãðóíòîì èç áàëëîíà Tamiya, íàíåñåííûì ïðè ïîìîùè àýðîãðàôà. Ñëîé ãðóíòà ïîëó÷èëñÿ òîíêèé è ïîëóïðîçðà÷íûé.

Îêðàøèâàíèå

Ñðàçó õî÷ó îòìåòèòü òî, î ÷åì íèêîãäà ðàíåå â ñâîèõ ñòàòüÿõ è íà ôîðóìå, ÿ íå ãîâîðèë – ïðè îêðàøèâàíèè âñåõ ñâîèõ ôèãóð, âêëþ÷àÿ è îïèñûâàåìóþ â íàñòîÿùåé ñòàòüå, ÿ ïðèìåíÿë ëèøü øåñòü áàçîâûõ öâåòîâ: áåëûé, ÷åðíûé, êðàñíûé, ñèíèé, æåëòûé è çåëåíûé. Âñå îñòàëüíûå öâåòà è îòòåíêè ÿ ïîëó÷àë çà ñ÷åò ñìåøèâàíèÿ â ðàçíûõ ïðîïîðöèÿõ ýòèõ øåñòè öâåòîâ. Ýòî ñèëüíî ýêîíîìèò äåíüãè, íî, êàê ìíå êàæåòñÿ, îãðàíè÷èâàåò ÿðêîñòü ïàëèòðû. Öâåòà ïîëó÷àþòñÿ áîëåå «íàòóðàëüíûå», à âåäü èíîãäà òàê õî÷åòñÿ ìóëüòèïëèêàöèîííîé ÿðêîñòè.
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Îêðàøèâàòü ôèãóðêó ÿ íà÷àë ñ ïàñòè. Íàíåñ òåìíî-êðàñíûé öâåò è çà äâà ïðîõîäà âûñâåòëèë íàèáîëåå ðåëüåôíûå ìåñòà ãóá, ïðèäàâ èì íåêîòîðûé îáúåì.
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Çàòåì ÿ èçîáðàçèë åäèíñòâåííûé ãëàç îðêà è íàíåñ áàçîâûé òåìíî-çåëåíûé öâåò êîæè. Ðàçáàâèâ íåìíîãî òåìíî-çåëåíóþ êðàñêó æåëòûì öâåòîì è âîäè÷êîé, ÿ ïðîøåëñÿ ïî âûñòóïàþùåìó ðåëüåôó òåëà îðêà. Ýòó ïðîöåäóðó ÿ ïîâòîðÿë íåñ÷åòíîå êîëè÷åñòâî ðàç, ïîêà íå ïîëó÷èë ïðèåìëåìûé ðåçóëüòàò, ïîñòåïåííî ñîêðàùàÿ ïëîùàäü îêðàøèâàåìîé ïîâåðõíîñòè.
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Ïîñëå òîãî, êàê êîæà áûëà çàâåðøåíà, ÿ ïåðåøåë ê ëîõìîòüÿì îðêà. Íà÷àë ñ ñàìîé íèæíåé òðÿïêè. Òàê æå, êàê è â ñëó÷àå ñ êîæåé, âûñâåòëèë å¸ çà íåñêîëüêî ïðîõîäîâ, ïðè ýòîì êîíòðàñò öâåòîâûõ ïåðåõîäîâ äåëàë ãîðàçäî áîëåå âûñîêèì, ÷åì â ñëó÷àå ñ çåëåíîé øêóðîé. Ïîñëå íèæíåé òêàíè áûë êîæàíûé êàïþøîí, à â ñàìîì êîíöå – ñðåäíÿÿ ïîâÿçêà-þáêà èç ãðóáîé øêóðû êàêîãî-òî çâåðÿ.

Ïîäñòàâêà áàøíÿ

Ïîäãîòîâêà

ß óæå ãîâîðèë âûøå î òîì, ÷òî âðåìåíè ó ìåíÿ áûëî î÷åíü ìàëî. Ïîýòîìó ìíå íóæíà áûëà ìàêñèìàëüíî ïðîñòàÿ ïî èçãîòîâëåíèþ ïîäñòàâêà. Ñíà÷àëà áûë âàðèàíò ïðèìåíåíèÿ ñòàíäàðòíîé ïëàñòèêîâîé ïîäñòàâî÷êè îò ýòîé ôèãóðêè. Íàíåñòè íà íå¸ ïðè ïîìîùè ÏÂÀ ïåñî÷êó è íå óñëîæíÿòü.
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Òóò ÿ âñïîìíèë ïðî êóïëåííóþ íà äíÿõ ïîäñòàâêó. Íî îíà áûëà ñëèøêîì áîëüøîé äëÿ ñòîëü ìåëêîé ôèãóðêè îðêà. Íóæíî áûëî ÷òî-òî ïî-áûñòðîìó âîçâåñòè íà å¸ ïîâåðõíîñòè, ÷òî áû øàìàí íå ñìîòðåëñÿ êîå-êàê ïðèëåïëåííûì. Ðåøèë èç ñîîáðàæåíèÿ ýêîíîìèè âðåìåíè ïîêà íå çàäóìûâàòüñÿ ñèëüíî íàä ýòèì âîïðîñîì, à çàëèòü â ïëàñòèêîâûé ñòàêàí÷èê àëåáàñòð è òåì ñàìûì ïîëó÷èòü ïîäõîäÿùåãî äèàìåòðà öèëèíäð, êîòîðûé â äàëüíåéøåì ìîæíî áûëî áû õóäîæåñòâåííî íàëîìàòü, ñîçäàâ íåêîòîðîå îñíîâàíèå äëÿ ôèãóðêè.
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Êîãäà ÿ íà÷àë ïîäáèðàòü ñòàêàí÷èê ïîäõîäÿùåãî äèàìåòðà, òî ñòîëêíóëñÿ ñ òåì, ÷òî ó îäíîãî áûëî äîíûøêî íåñêîëüêî áîëüøå òðåáóåìîãî äèàìåòðà, à ó äðóãîãî – ìåíüøå. Ðåøèë çàìåøàòü ðàñòâîð àëåáàñòðà â îáà, à ïîçæå îïðåäåëèòüñÿ ñ òåì, êàêîé èìåííî ïîäîéäåò ëó÷øå.
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Îêàçàëîñü, ÷òî åñëè ñîåäèíèòü ñòàêàí÷èêè äîíûøêàìè, òî îíè ïðåêðàñíî âõîäÿò îäèí â äðóãîé. Èìåííî ýòà íàõîäêà è îïðåäåëèëà áóäóùèé âèä ïîäñòàâêè – áàøíÿ! Ñêðàéáåðîì ÿ íàíåñ ýôôåêò êèðïè÷íîé êëàäêè è ïðîöàðàïàë äâåðíîé èëè îêîííûé, òóò êîìó êàê áîëüøå íðàâèòñÿ, ïðîåì.
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Íåäîñòàâàëî ëèøü çóáöîâ â âåðõíåé ÷àñòè áàøíè. Èõ ÿ ïðîáîâàë âûêëàäûâàòü èç âûðåçàííûõ îòäåëüíûõ êèðïè÷èêîâ èç àëåáàñòðû. Íå âûøëî. Ñìîòðåëîñü ñëèøêîì ãðóáî ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ ïëàâíûìè îêðóãëûìè ñòåíàìè áàøíè. Âûõîä áûë íàéäåí ïðîñòîé. Ñíîâà ïîìîãëè òå æå ñòàêàí÷èêè. ß âñòàâèë îäèí ñòàêàí÷èê â äðóãîé, ñêëåèâ èõ äîíûøêàìè.  îáðàçîâàâøóþñÿ íèøó ìåæäó ñòåíêàìè ñòàêàí÷èêîâ, ÿ çàëèë æèäêèé ðàñòâîð àëåáàñòðû. ×åðåç ïÿòü èëè ñåìü ìèíóò, ÿ ðàçîáðàë êîíñòðóêöèþ, ïîëó÷èâ ðîâíåíüêèé ïîëûé öèëèíäð. Èìåííî èç íåãî è áûëè âîñïðîèçâåäåíû ïîëîìàííûå çóáöû áàøíè. Æåëàåìàÿ ãàðìîíèÿ áûëà äîñòèãíóòà.
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Ïîñëå ðàáîòû ñ àëåáàñòðîì âñåãäà îñòàåòñÿ ìíîæåñòâî ìåëêîé êðîøêè. Èìåííî å¸ ÿ è ïðèìåíèë äëÿ èìèòàöèè íåðîâíîé ïîâåðõíîñòè êàìíÿ è íàãðîìîæäåíèÿ ìåëêèì ìóñîðîì ðåäêèõ óãëîâ áàøíè.  ñàìîì êîíöå óñòàíîâèë ïðóòüÿ ðåøåòêè èç çóáî÷èñòîê. Âñå êëåèë ïðè ïîìîùè ðàçâåäåííîãî âîäîé ÏÂÀ.

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Ïðîöåññ îêðàøèâàíèÿ áûë êðàéíå ïðîñò. ß èñïîëüçîâàë ìíîæåñòâî íàìåøåííûõ ìíîé îòòåíêîâ äëÿ õóäîæåñòâåííîãî ðàñïèñûâàíèÿ êèñòüþ ïîâåðõíîñòè áàøíè. Äà. Ðàáîòàë òîëüêî êèñòüþ è àêðèëîâûìè êðàñêàìè Vallejo.

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 çàâåðøåíèè âñåõ ðàáîò, ÿ âçãðîìîçäèë ôèãóðêó îðêà íà áàøíþ è íåìíîãî äîðàáîòàë íåêîòîðûå äåòàëè êèñòüþ. Îñîáåííî ýòî êàñàëîñü ïðîâîëî÷íîãî äåðåâà è ïî÷âû ïîä íîãàìè îðêà.  ñàìîì êîíöå ÿ íà äåðåâî ïîâåñèë öåïü, êîòîðóþ íå ñòàë ñòàðèòü èñêóññòâåííî òîëüêî ïî òîé ïðè÷èíå, ÷òî îíà áûëà ñîâåðøåííî îò äðóãîé ôèãóðêè è òàì îíà äîëæíà áûëà áûòü íîâîé, áëåñòÿùåé.

Ôèíàë

À âîò è ôèíàë.
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Post scriptum

Íà ñàìîì äåëå – ýòî áûë íå ôèíàë. Ïåðåä îòïðàâêîé ôèãóðû íà âûñòàâêó â Ðÿçàíü, ÿ äîðàáîòàë öåïü; ñîñòàðèë å¸, è ïåðåäåëàëà äåðåâî, ñäåëàâ åãî ãîðàçäî ìåíåå ïîõîæèì íà ñêðó÷åííóþ ïðîâîëîêó.

Ñïàñèáî âñåì, êòî äî÷èòàë ñòàòüþ äî êîíöà. Îñîáåííî ñïàñèáî òåì èç âàñ, êòî îñòàâèò êîììåíòàðèé ê ìîåé ñêðîìíîé ïèñàíèíå.
Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Àðò¸ì Äååâ.

 

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Kerogaz ˜ 12.04.2010 - 08:24
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Êðàñèâàÿ ðàáîòà, îòëè÷íàÿ ñòàòüÿ!
atm_deev ˜ 12.04.2010 - 18:18
Òåìà: Re: Games Workshop 28mm Nazgob Ork Shaman, ñòðàæ áîëîòíîé ìà
Êðàñèâàÿ ðàáîòà, îòëè÷íàÿ ñòàòüÿ!
Ñïàñèáî. À åñòü ÷òî-òî, ÷òî íå ïîíðàâèëîñü èëè ñìóòèëî?
Àëåêñàíäð_Èâàíîâ ˜ 12.04.2010 - 18:57
Òåìà: Games Workshop 28mm Nazgob Ork Shaman, ñòðàæ áîëîòíîé ìàãèè
Îáàëäåòü, äî ÷åãî õîðîø! î÷åíü õàðàêòåðíûé òèïóñ, à îïàñåíèÿ Àâòîðà (èìõî, ñîâåðøåííî ìíèìûå - øèêàðíûé îðê, íàìíîãî ëó÷øå. ÷åì ïðîñòî âûìàçàííûå ÿðêîé çåëåíüþ âåñåëûå áåçáàøåííûå ïðèäóðêè-âîÿêè) íàñ÷åò íåøèðîêîé ïàëèòðû öâåòîâ è êàê ðåçóëüòàòà - òóñêëîé ôèãóðêè - ñ ëèõâîé êîìïåíñèðóþòñÿ øèêàðíîé ïîäñòàâêîé!!!
Ñðàçó àññîöèàòèâíî íàïîìíèëà îäíîâðåìåííî è âàðêðàôò-2 è øàõìàòíóþ ëàäüþ. Ñìîòðþ è íå ìîãó íàãëÿäåòüñÿ - äî ÷åãî õîðîøà ïîëó÷èëàñü êîìïîçèöèÿ!!! ÑÓÏÅÐ!
atm_deev ˜ 12.04.2010 - 19:03
Òåìà: Re: Games Workshop 28mm Nazgob Ork Shaman, ñòðàæ áîëîòíîé ìà
Îáàëäåòü, äî ÷åãî õîðîø! î÷åíü õàðàêòåðíûé òèïóñ, à îïàñåíèÿ Àâòîðà (èìõî, ñîâåðøåííî ìíèìûå - øèêàðíûé îðê, íàìíîãî ëó÷øå. ÷åì ïðîñòî âûìàçàííûå ÿðêîé çåëåíüþ âåñåëûå áåçáàøåííûå ïðèäóðêè-âîÿêè) íàñ÷åò íåøèðîêîé ïàëèòðû öâåòîâ è êàê ðåçóëüòàòà - òóñêëîé ôèãóðêè - ñ ëèõâîé êîìïåíñèðóþòñÿ øèêàðíîé ïîäñòàâêîé!!!
Ñðàçó àññîöèàòèâíî íàïîìíèëà îäíîâðåìåííî è âàðêðàôò-2 è øàõìàòíóþ ëàäüþ. Ñìîòðþ è íå ìîãó íàãëÿäåòüñÿ - äî ÷åãî õîðîøà ïîëó÷èëàñü êîìïîçèöèÿ!!! ÑÓÏÅÐ!
Óõ-òû! Êàê ÿðêî. Ñïàñèáî! :)
Âîð÷óí ˜ 12.04.2010 - 19:14
À åñòü ÷òî-òî, ÷òî íå ïîíðàâèëîñü èëè ñìóòèëî?
×òî ñìóòèëî ìåíÿ, ÿ óæå â êîíòåñòå ñêàçàë, íè÷åãî íå ñêðûë :mrgreen: À âîò àëåáàñòðîâûå øòóäèè èíòåðåñíû. Îòêðîéòå ñåêðåò -- ïî÷åìó èìåííî àëåáàñòð?
atm_deev ˜ 12.04.2010 - 19:23
À åñòü ÷òî-òî, ÷òî íå ïîíðàâèëîñü èëè ñìóòèëî?
×òî ñìóòèëî ìåíÿ, ÿ óæå â êîíòåñòå ñêàçàë, íè÷åãî íå ñêðûë :mrgreen: À âîò àëåáàñòðîâûå øòóäèè èíòåðåñíû. Îòêðîéòå ñåêðåò -- ïî÷åìó èìåííî àëåáàñòð?
Äëÿ ìåíÿ ýòî ñàìîå ïðîñòîå è äåøåâîå. :)
Ìîæåò áûòü ÷òî-òî äðóãîå áûëî áû óäîáíåé è ïðîùå?
Âîð÷óí ˜ 12.04.2010 - 19:37
Ìîæåò áûòü ÷òî-òî äðóãîå áûëî áû óäîáíåé è ïðîùå?
Ãèïñ äîëüøå ñòûíåò è îòòîãî ïîóäîáíåå â îáðàáîòêå, à òàê-òî òåõíîëîãèÿ îáû÷íî ðîâíî òà æå. Ïðîñòî íà ìîé ëè÷íûé âêóñ àëåáàñòð èçëèøíå áûñòðûé ìàòåðèàë, âîò è óäèâëÿþñü -- êàê âû óñïåâàåòå â àëåáàñòðå ýòàêîå ñâàÿòü?
atm_deev ˜ 12.04.2010 - 19:42
Ìîæåò áûòü ÷òî-òî äðóãîå áûëî áû óäîáíåé è ïðîùå?
Ãèïñ äîëüøå ñòûíåò è îòòîãî ïîóäîáíåå â îáðàáîòêå, à òàê-òî òåõíîëîãèÿ îáû÷íî ðîâíî òà æå. Ïðîñòî íà ìîé ëè÷íûé âêóñ àëåáàñòð èçëèøíå áûñòðûé ìàòåðèàë, âîò è óäèâëÿþñü -- êàê âû óñïåâàåòå â àëåáàñòðå ýòàêîå ñâàÿòü?

À ÿ äóìàë, ÷òî:
Àëåáà́ñòð (îò ãðå÷. ἀλάβαστρος) — íàçâàíèå äâóõ ðàçëè÷íûõ ìèíåðàëîâ: ãèïñà (äèàêâàñóëüôàòà êàëüöèÿ) è êàëüöèòà (êàðáîíàò êàëüöèÿ). Ïåðâûé — àëåáàñòð (àëàâàñòîð), êîòîðûì ìû ïîëüçóåìñÿ â íàøè äíè; âòîðîå — ïî áîëüøåé ÷àñòè íàçâàíèå ìàòåðèàëà â àíòè÷íîñòè.

Íî ÿ íå îïûòåí è ìàëî ÷òî çíàþ.
Åñëè â àëåáàñòð/ãèïñ äîáàâèòü êèñëîòû (ëèìîííîé) èëè ÏÂÀ, òî âðåìÿ çàñòûâàíèÿ ìîæíî ñèëüíî óâåëè÷èòü.
Âîð÷óí ˜ 12.04.2010 - 19:56
:mrgreen: ß â êóðñå, äà, íî â íàøåé äåðåâíå ãèïñ è àëåáàñòð ïðîäàþò â ñòðîéìàãàçàõ èìåííî êàê "ãèïñ" è "àëåáàñòð", ïðè÷åì "ãèïñ" îáû÷íî áåëûé è ñòûíåò ïîäîëüøå, à "àëåáàñòð" ñåðûé è ñòûíåò áóêâàëüíî íà ãëàçàõ (è íà ðóêàõ òîæå). Âïðî÷åì, ñòðîèòåëüíûì ãèïñîì äàâíî óæå íå ïîëüçîâàëñÿ, êîãäà-òî ìíå îòâàëèëîñü ïî ñëó÷àþ ñ ïîëêèëà ïðîñðî÷åííîãî çóáîïðîòåçíîãî ãèïñà (ðîçîâîãî), äî ñèõ ïîð èçâåñòè íå ìîãó. Õîòÿ ó ìåíÿ òàêèõ ýïè÷íûõ ïîäñòàâîê è íå áûëî íè ðàçó. Íåò, âðó, áûëî ðàç, íî òàì áûë ìàêåò ìåñòíîñòè ïîëòîðà íà ìåòð, è òàì ÿ êàê ðàç íàìåøèâàë äèêóþ ñìåñü èç ãèïñà, öåìåíòà è âîäû ñ ÏÂÀ, óæå íå ïîìíþ ïî÷åìó èìåííî òàê, íî ïî÷åìó-òî ìíå òîãäà êàçàëîñü, ÷òî òàê ïðàâèëüíî :mrgreen:
atm_deev ˜ 12.04.2010 - 20:03
..."àëåáàñòð" ñåðûé è ñòûíåò áóêâàëüíî íà ãëàçàõ (è íà ðóêàõ òîæå)...
Ñåìü ìèíóò - ìîé ñëó÷àé. Íî ìíå õâàòàåò íà âñå. :)
Ïîëíîå îòâåðäåâàíèå - ñóòêè è áîëåå.
ß æå íå ëåïëþ èç íåãî íè÷åãî. ;)

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