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Trumpeter 1/48 L-39 Albatros

Ïðèâåòñòâóþ âñåõ. Ïðåäñòàâëÿþ âàøåìó âíèìàíèþ ìîäåëü ó÷åáíî-áîåâîãî ñàìîë¸òà L-39 Albatros â 48 ìàñøòàáå îò ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ Trumpeter.
Ïðè ñáîðêå òàê æå áûë èñïîëüçîâàí íàáîð ôîòîòðàâëåíèÿ L-39ZA 1/48 Êàò. íîìåð: 49920 è L-39C Albatros ñòàëüíûå ðåìíè 1/48 Êàò. íîìåð: FE885.
 

Êðàñêè èñïîëüçîâàëèñü Òàìèÿ è Ãþíçå. Êàê âñåãäà ïàðó ñëîâ î íàáîðå. Íàáîð îòíîñèòåëüíî ñâåæèé. Êà÷åñòâî ïëàñòèêà õîðîøåå, ñòûêóåìîñòü òîæå. Ôîíàðè ïðîçðà÷íûå.  íàáîðå íåò íåêîòîðûõ ìåëî÷åé, íî îá ýòîì ïîçæå. Åùå êàê âñåãäà ó òðàìïà ïðîáëåìû ñî ñòûêóåìîñòüþ ôîíàðÿ è ïåðåïë¸òà. Êàê áóäòî ïðîèçâîäèòåëü íå ðàññìàòðèâàåò âàðèàíò ñ çàêðûòûì êîêïèòîì. Íó äà îáî âñ¸ì ïî ïîðÿäêó.
Íîñ íóæíî îòãðóæàòü åñëè âû õîòèòå ÷òîá ñàìîë¸ò ñòîÿë íà øàññè. Ïîñòîÿííî ñïðàøèâàþ ñêîëüêî âåøàòü â ãðàììàõ, à ñàì íå çàïîìíèë ñêîëüêî ïîëîæèë.
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Ñáîðêà êàáèíû ñ ýëåìåíòàìè ôîòîòðàâëåíèÿ:
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 íàáîðå èäåò êàêàÿ òî íå ïî ðàçìåðàì ðàçäåëèòåëüíàÿ ïåðåãîðîäêà ìåæäó êàáèíàìè, ïðèøëîñü âûðåçàòü íîâóþ ñàìîìó.

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Äâèãàòåëü , ñîïëî.
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Æåíà óñòðîèëà äèâåðñèþ ïî îòíîøåíèþ êî ìíå êàê ê ìîäåëèñòó è ïðèòàùèëà â äîì î÷àðîâàòåëüíóþ êîòåéêó, î÷àðîâàíèå êîòîðîé ñîâñåì íå ìåøàëî òûðèòü ïîñòîÿííî ó ìåíÿ äåòàëè è ïàêîñòèòü.
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Àýðîäèíàìè÷åñêèé òîðìîç, Ýäóàðä äà¸ò íà íåãî ñ íèçó òðàâëî, íî ÷åëîâåê êîòîðûé ëåòàë íà ýòîì ñàìîë¸òå ñêàçàë ÷òî ýòî íå ñîîòâåòñòâóåò äåéñòâèòåëüíîñòè.  ðåçóëüòàòå ïðîñòî íåìíîãî ïîðàáîòàë ñâåðëîì.
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Ðàññâåðëèë îòâåðñòèÿ â ðåàêòèâíûõ óñòàíîâêàõ. Õîòåë çÿðÿäèòü èõ ñ ïîìîùüþ çóáî÷èñòîê íî îíè îêàçàëèñü âñå ðàçíûå è ÿ îòêàçàëñÿ îò ýòîé çàòåè.
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Ñðåçàë ñî ñòàáèëèçàòîðîâ âîðòåêñ ãåíåðàòîðû è ïðèêëåèë òî ÷òî äà¸ò íàáîð òðàâëà:
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Îñòåêëåíèå è ïåðåïë¸ò, ðàçíèöà â ðàçìåðàõ. Ïëþñ åùå òî ÷òî îñòåêëåíèå èìååò âàðèàíò îòêðûòîãî êîêïèòà ñîäåðæèò â îòëè÷èè îò îðèãèíàëà îòëèâêè à â êîðïóñå ñîîòâåòñòâåííî ëèøíèå îòâåðñòèÿ. Ñòà÷èâàë ôîíàðü ÷òîá óìåùàëñÿ â îòâåä¸ííîì åìó ìåñòå. Ñòà÷èâàë öåíòðàëüíûé ïåðåïë¸ò. Âñòàâêè â ôþçåëÿæ ïî ïðàâîìó áîðòó è âûðàâíèâàíèå ïîâåðõíîñòè:
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Trumpeter 1/48 L-39 Albatros: 1565081046_IMG-20190727-WA0000.jpeg 
Âûðåçàë îòâåðñòèÿ ïîä ïîäíîæêè:
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Íó è íåìíîæêî åùå ìåëî÷åé ÏÒÁ, ÂÑÓ êîòîðàÿ â íàáîðå íèêàê íå äà¸òñÿ, ñòîéêè øàññè.
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Trumpeter 1/48 L-39 Albatros: 1565081440_IMG-20190801-WA0050.jpeg 
Ñ ïîïàäàíèåì â öâåòà ïðÿì âîîáùå ïðîáëåìà. ïåðåñìîòðåë êó÷ó âàðèàíòîâ ôîòî , âåçäå öâåòà ðàçíûå, òå ÷òî äà¸ò òðóáà÷ â èíñòðóêöèè âîîáùå ìèìî, õîòÿ íàøåë ïàðó ôîòî ãäå öâåò ñîâïàäàë.  îáùåì èç êó÷è îòòåíêîâ ðåøèëè îñòàâèòü ïî ñîãëàñîâàíèþ ñ õîçÿèíîì ìîäåëè òî ÷òî âû â èòîãå óâèäèòå.
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Ñîáñòâåííî ñàìà ìîäåëü. Ïðèÿòíîãî ïðîñìîòðà.

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maestro83maestro83 ˜ 11.08.2019 - 23:05
Òåìà: Trumpeter 1/48 L-39 Albatros
Êðàñèâàÿ ðàáîòà. Íå îáðàùàéòå âíèìàíèÿ íà ïîïûòêè îòãðûçòü âàì íîãè êðèòèêàìè çà óñòàíîâêó ïóøêè è ïîäâåøåííûå ÏÒÁ, ðàáîòà ñäåëàíî êëàññíî. ß ïîñòàâëþ + ïîëþáý
AviamentAviament ˜ 11.08.2019 - 23:21
Êñòàòè â ñâÿçè ñ òåì ÷òî ïóøêè íå áûëî , îíà ñäåëàíà ñú¸ìíîé )). Óñòàíîâêà ïóøêè ïîäðàçóìåâàåò êîíñòðóêòèâíûå èçìåíåíèÿ è íåêîòîðûå èç íèõ çàìåòíû ñíàðóæè. Ëóâðû è ÂÇ îõëàæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîîáîðóäîâàíèÿ ïåðåíåñåíû ñ ïðàâîãî áîðòà íà ëåâûé, à ñòâîðêè ïåðåäíåé îïîðû øàññè çàìåíåíû íà ñòàëüíûå è íå îêðàøèâàëèñü. Òàê ÷òî âñ¸ íå òàê ïðîñòî "ñíÿë-ïîñòàâèë".
À, â öåëîì ïî ìîäåëè, ïîíðàâèëèñü òîëüêî îòòåíêè êàìóôëÿæà - î÷åíü õîðîøåå ïîïàäàíèå.  îñòàëüíîì... Êàêàÿ-òî íåáðåæíîñòü â ìåëî÷àõ. Èëè ýòî íåâíèìàòåëüíîñòü? Íî îáùåå âïå÷àòëåíèå ïîðòÿò. Óâû...

Íà L-39ZA (âàðèàíò ñ âîçìîæíîñòüþ óñòàíîâêè ïóøåê) äàæå áîëüøå âíåøíèõ âèäèìûõ îòëè÷èé: ñòîéêè îñíîâíûõ îïîð óñèëåííûå, êîëåñà èìåþò äðóãîé ðàçìåð è êîíñòðóêöèþ äèñêîâ, óñèëåí öåíòðîïëàí (äðóãàÿ ðàñøèâêà) è ïðî÷èå ìåëî÷è. Ñ îêðàñêîé è öâåòàìè ñîãëàøóñü, êðîìå íèçà - â ñåðîì öâåòå íå äîëæíî áûòü íè êàïëè ñèíåãî, îí ïðîñòî íåéòðàëüíî ñåðûé. À âûïóùåííûå çàêðûëêè è îòêðûòûå ñòâîðêè íà ñòîÿíêå - ýòî íîðìàëüíàÿ, ÷àñòî âñòðå÷àþùàÿñÿ, êîíôèãóðàöèÿ äëÿ 39-õ Ýëîê .
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semaleviksemalevik ˜ 11.08.2019 - 23:41
Òåìà: Trumpeter 1/48 L-39 Albatros
Êñòàòè èçíà÷àëüíî íàáîð êàê ðàç L-39 ZA. Íèç ó Ðîññèéñêèõ ñàìîë¸òîâ áûë ãîëóáîé. Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå íà ôîòî ìíîãèõ áîðòîâ. + ×åëîâåê íà í¸ì ëåòàâøèé ïî öâåòàì ìåíÿ îðèåíòèðîâàë êàê ðàç òàê. Ïî ïîâîäó æàðîïðî÷íûõ ïàíåëåé è ñòâîðêîé ïåðåäíåãî øàññè ñîãëàñåí, ñ ïóøêîé òàì ïî äðóãîìó.
Âÿ÷åñëàâ_Äåì÷åíêîÂÿ÷åñëàâ_Äåì÷åíêî ˜ 11.08.2019 - 23:48
Êñòàòè èçíà÷àëüíî íàáîð êàê ðàç L-39 ZA. Ýòî íå èìååò çíà÷åíèÿ - ïëàñòèê âî âñåõ âàðèàíòàõ Òðóìïåòåðà îäèí è òîò æå.
Roman-NordRoman-Nord ˜ 12.08.2019 - 14:37
Ñàëþò,âñåì!
Õîðîøàÿ ðàáîòà! Çàêàç÷èê îäíîçíà÷íî äîâîëåí.
UsatiymenUsatiymen ˜ 12.08.2019 - 14:57
Òåìà: Trumpeter 1/48 L-39 Albatros
Îòëè÷íî ïîëó÷èëîñü!
borchetborchet ˜ 13.08.2019 - 10:43
Äåéñòâèòåëüíî êàêàÿ ... ðàçíèöà, ðàç êëèåíò õî÷åò... :mrgreen: :facepalm:
Ïðÿìî êàêàÿ òî ìîäåëüíàÿ ìàíòðà â ìîäå
Òîëüêî îäíà ïðîáëåìà, L-39C áûëè è åñòü íà âîîðóæåíèè ÂÂÑ ÑÑÑÐ è ÐÔ. Ñàìîëåòû ñåðèè ZA è ZO - íèêîãäà
Åñëè êëèåíò íå ñîîáðàæàåò, òî äîáàâüòå òóäà ïî ÔÀÁ-9000, âåäü êëèåíò áóäåò ðàä
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Þðèé_ÒåïñóðêàåâÞðèé_Òåïñóðêàåâ ˜ 13.08.2019 - 12:05
Êàêèå æå ó òðàìïà âîçäóõîçàáîðíèêè óáîãèå...
NazarNazar ˜ 13.08.2019 - 12:09
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Èìåííî ïî-ýòîìó, íàäî ïîêóïàòü ñìîëó ó Ñàøè.
GansfonBjuloffGansfonBjuloff ˜ 10.10.2019 - 17:49
Òåìà: Re: Trumpeter 1/48 L-39 Albatros
Êñòàòè èçíà÷àëüíî íàáîð êàê ðàç L-39 ZA. Íèç ó Ðîññèéñêèõ ñàìîë¸òîâ áûë ãîëóáîé. Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå íà ôîòî ìíîãèõ áîðòîâ. + ×åëîâåê íà í¸ì ëåòàâøèé ïî öâåòàì ìåíÿ îðèåíòèðîâàë êàê ðàç òàê. Ïî ïîâîäó æàðîïðî÷íûõ ïàíåëåé è ñòâîðêîé ïåðåäíåãî øàññè ñîãëàñåí, ñ ïóøêîé òàì ïî äðóãîìó.

Ïî ïîâîäó öâåòà íèæíåé ÷àñòè ôþçåëÿæà è êðûëà. Ìíå äîâåëîñü ëåòàòü íà ñàìûõ ïåðâûõ ñåðèÿõ Ë-39. Òàê âîò îíè íå áûëè êàìóôëèðîâàííûìè. Îíè áûëè áåëîãî öâåòà. Íèæíÿÿ ÷àñòü ôþçåëÿæà è êðûëî áûëè ñåðîãî öâåòà. Áîëåå íîâûå ñåðèè áûëè óæå êàìóôëèðîâàííûìè, íî íèæíÿÿ ÷àñòü ôþçåëÿæà è êðûëà âñ¸ ðàâíî áûëè ñåðîãî öâåòà. Ãîëóáûìè îíè ñòàëè ãîðàçäî ïîçæå, âèäèìî. Äà, ëåòàë ÿ íà íèõ â 1979-1980 ãîäàõ.
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