Там же чуть позже будет ревью книги Брайана Каучи на ту же тему
И сюда тогда продублирую: Там семь номеров должно быть, и я точно знаю, что один номер у нас везде раздавался неполный, и только с первой страницей его статьи (на рутрекере то же). Но я нашёл полный.
В 2020 про Мальту не было, был номер про разведчики. Так же, позже, в 24м у него была там статья про окраску кабины Спитов "Grey Green revisited"
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Все хорошо - но непонятно нифига! ))) ГДЕ номер про кабины? Я как раз готовлюсь строить двухместного ирландца, похоже он как раз такого цвета. Столько постов по теме - хоть бы кто догадался конкретные номера указать (((((
Здравствуйте коллеги.
Прошу помощи в поиске ответа на возникший вопрос. На фото британские самолеты разных подразделений и разного времени. Но все они имеют темную кайму фюзеляжного О.З. Узнать цвет и назначение этой каймы я не смог. М
ожет кто то знает ответ?
И как там верно замечено, по поводу фото Spitfire Mk.VII MD114 DU@G у соседнего с ним видна нормальная жёлтая окантовка кокарды, как и у самого DU@G обычные жёлтые кончики лопастей, при этом кокарда с очень тёмной окантовкой
И какой-то из номеров про Мальтийцев был всегда не полный. Сейчас не помню какой
У вас номер 10 за 2018 год в редактируемом формате? Текст скопировать можно? Если да, то скиньте плиз на почту foxbat78@gmail.com только этот журнальчик. Ну или на облако куда-нибудь..
Я перевел все остальные части статьи, но именно этот номер у меня в таком пдф, что текст из него не копируется, а перебивать это все вручную в переводчика нет ни времени, ни желания По факту эта статья мало полезна для общего понимания, ибо в предыдущей Лукас уже придумал Malta blue/slate grey scheme и тут ее просто натягивает на все поздние поставки (Insect и далее). Но для общей картины пусть будет.
У вас номер 10 за 2018 год в редактируемом формате? Текст скопировать можно?
Нет, текст не распознан. Но, возможно я скажу какую-то новость, но Яндекс-переводчик давно распознаёт и переводит текст с картинки, и лучше и быстрее Файнридера. Надо только вставить в Яндекс скрин страницы, или любую картинку:
Справа на верху появится есть кнопка "открыть как текст", оттуда можно скопировать распознанный текст:
Справа на верху появится есть кнопка "открыть как текст", оттуда можно скопировать распознанный текст:
Даже по вашей картинке видно, что качество перевода там просто кровь из глаз
Там после переводчиков и так работы вагон по приведению набора букв в осмысленный текст, так здесь же просто треш.. Ладно, помучаюсь, может чего и выйдет с этим оставшимся куском..
Мне не трудно повторить, что речь не о переводе, а распознавании текста. Яндекс даже "готику" из немецких мануалов распознаёт.
Так что читайте внимательно, что вам пишут: Справа на верху появится есть кнопка "открыть как текст", оттуда можно скопировать распознанный текст:
Добавлено спустя 1 минуту 36 секунд:
Распознанный, а не переведённый
Добавлено спустя 2 минуты 33 секунды:
Цитата:
COLOUR CONUNDRUM
A Malta Story Concluded
PART 2 The Malta Spitfires June to October 1942
By Paul Lucas
revious articles dealing with the
camouflage and marking of the Malta
Spitfires under the title 'A Malta Story
were published in the December 2015, January
2016, August 2017 and September 2017 issues
of Scale Aircraft Modelling. This article picks up
from where the September 2017 article came to
anend,
Operation Grinnel /Operation Bellows
circa 29 July - 11 August 1942
(The Pedestal Convoy)
Operation Knapsack/Insect 23 June -
21 July
The 32 Spitfres of Operation Knapsack left the
UK aboard SS Empire Kestrel, which carried four
Spitfires, SS Empire Darwin, which carried
twenty two Spitfires and SSEmpire Tern, which
carried six Spitfires as part of Corwoy OG 86,
which left the UK on 2 July 1942. Most of these
Spitfires were delivered to Malta as Operation
Insect on 21 July.
Operation Bellows was the third occasion
when Spitfires were ferried directly to Malta
from the UK without passing through Gibraltar.
For this operation HMS Furious returned to the
UK where she loaded forty one Spitfires, which
had been either taken by road directly to Port
Glasgow or ferried by air via Renfriew as had
happened with Operations Newman and
Oppidan.Thirty two of
these Spitfires were
those scheduled to
depart the UK in the
regularthree
weekly Gibraltar
Iconvoy during
August under the
larger naval aircraft of the 1920s and 30s into the
air and also arresting landing aircraft. As with the
ski-jump' fitted to the Mustrious Class carriers of
the 1980s for the Sea Harrier, on take-off, the
ramp had the effect of precipitating the alrcraft
into the air at the end of the rise at which point
the wings had a high angle of attack to the line
of flight. In view of the Spitfire's relatively high
stalling speed in comparison to the earlier
generation of biplanes, this action of projecting
the aircraft into the air with a high angle of
attack at a relatively low airspeed was hazardous
In the extreme because these two factors could
potentially produce a lethal combination.
On Sunday 1 August, HMS Furious put to sea
to conduct a trial to determine whether Spitfires
fitted with the then standard D.H. 5/39
propeller could be safely flown off. The
test inwolved inserting wooden chocks
into the flaps as they were
Two of the
Spitfires
that had been
carried aboard 55 Empire
Darwin arrived at Gibraltar in a damaged
condition having been over-stowed with heavy
equipment (sald to be drums of dry cement),
which had stove in the Spitfire's packing cases
and caused significant damage to the aircraft.
Whilst the Spitfires were considered to be
repairable, the necessary work could not be
done in time for Operation Insect, which salled
from Gibraltar on 20 July. In the event, twenty
nine Spitfires tookoff but one crashed in the
process leaving twenty eight to arrive safely in
Malta despite attempts by the Luftwaffe to
intercept them en route.
retracted to
code name
'Operation
Landsman, which was
first notified on 9 July
with the code name
'Landsman' being
allocated on 28 July,
In the absence of photographs of Spitfires
that are known to have taken part in Operation
Insect, it is currently assumed that they would
have been finished in the Malta blue/slate grey
scheme (provisionally identified as Deep Skyand
Dark Slate Grey on the upper surfaces with Light
Mediterranean Blue on the under surfaces) at
Gibraltar. That said howrever, because the Malta
blue/slate grey scheme was supposed to be
appllied, this does not mean that it actually was
applied to every aircraft. It may be the case that
it was only partly applied or even omitted
altogetherifit was operationally necessary to
meet a deadline to assemble, test and get the
Spitfires aboard the carriers in time foran
operation. An outstanding example of
camouflage policy appearing to be walved, at
least in part for the sake of operational
expediency, is provided by Operation Bellows,
which took place at the same time as the big
Malta convoy, Operation Pedestal, in August.
On 29 July 1942 HQ
Maintenance Command
received a signal from
the Air Ministry
notifying them ofa
requirement for forty
Spitfires for special
Operation
Grinnel,
the
give an intermediate
setting and physically holding the
aircraft down as the engine was run up tofull
power before suddenlyletting go. Whilst this
technique was found to give some degree ofa
"catapult effect and the test Spitfire did
successfully fly off, the trial was considered
unsatisfactory as was a second similar trial
carried out the following evening after
modifications to the engine had been carried
out to give increased boost.
preparatory
phase of what became
Operation Bellows, Loading for Operation
Grinnel commenced the following day with
twentyseven Spitfires being embarked. Another
fourteen Spitfires and what are described as
'various stores' were embarked on 30 July and
work commenced to remove the Browning 303
machine guns of which there was a plentiful
supply in Malta, in order to reduce the weight of
the Spitfires to cope better with HMSFurious'
relatively short and ramped flight deck.
Following the second unsatisfactory trial, the
decision was taken that all the Spitfires would
have to be retrofitted with de Havilland
Hydromatic propellers, which would endow the
Spitfires with greater acceleration along the
deck and a much better initial rate of climb once
airborne. The necessary action was put in hand
immediately as following the trial that had
taken place at 17:00 hrs, a number oftelephone
calls were made, which led to a telegram being
sent from the Air Ministry to the MAP. HQ 41
Зачем так нервничать то? Я прекрасно понял, что вы написали. И даже проделал все манипуляции по распознаванию текста. Но обратите внимание, что весь распознанный текст свален в кучу - перемешаны и столбцы и абзацы. В итоге 15 секунд нажимания кнопок превратились в 2 часа работы с одной страницей до получения приемлемого результата в качестве перевода.
Но обратите внимание, что весь распознанный текст свален в кучу - перемешаны и столбцы и абзацы.
Ворд - заменить - больше - специальный - "знак абзаца" - заменить всё
Бомбер писал(а):
В итоге 15 секунд нажимания кнопок превратились в 2 часа работы с одной страницей до получения приемлемого результата в качестве перевода.
Цитата:
COLOUR CONUNDRUMA Malta Story ConcludedPART 2 The Malta Spitfires June to October 1942By Paul Lucasrevious articles dealing with thecamouflage and marking of the MaltaSpitfires under the title 'A Malta Storywere published in the December 2015, January2016, August 2017 and September 2017 issuesof Scale Aircraft Modelling. This article picks upfrom where the September 2017 article came toanend,Operation Grinnel /Operation Bellowscirca 29 July - 11 August 1942(The Pedestal Convoy)Operation Knapsack/Insect 23 June -21 JulyThe 32 Spitfres of Operation Knapsack left theUK aboard SS Empire Kestrel, which carried fourSpitfires, SS Empire Darwin, which carriedtwenty two Spitfires and SSEmpire Tern, whichcarried six Spitfires as part of Corwoy OG 86,which left the UK on 2 July 1942. Most of theseSpitfires were delivered to Malta as OperationInsect on 21 July.Operation Bellows was the third occasionwhen Spitfires were ferried directly to Maltafrom the UK without passing through Gibraltar.For this operation HMS Furious returned to theUK where she loaded forty one Spitfires, whichhad been either taken by road directly to PortGlasgow or ferried by air via Renfriew as hadhappened with Operations Newman andOppidan.Thirty two ofthese Spitfires werethose scheduled todepart the UK in theregularthreeweekly GibraltarIconvoy duringAugust under thelarger naval aircraft of the 1920s and 30s into theair and also arresting landing aircraft. As with theski-jump' fitted to the Mustrious Class carriers ofthe 1980s for the Sea Harrier, on take-off, theramp had the effect of precipitating the alrcraftinto the air at the end of the rise at which pointthe wings had a high angle of attack to the lineof flight. In view of the Spitfire's relatively highstalling speed in comparison to the earliergeneration of biplanes, this action of projectingthe aircraft into the air with a high angle ofattack at a relatively low airspeed was hazardousIn the extreme because these two factors couldpotentially produce a lethal combination.On Sunday 1 August, HMS Furious put to seato conduct a trial to determine whether Spitfiresfitted with the then standard D.H. 5/39propeller could be safely flown off. Thetest inwolved inserting wooden chocksinto the flaps as they wereTwo of theSpitfiresthat had beencarried aboard 55 EmpireDarwin arrived at Gibraltar in a damagedcondition having been over-stowed with heavyequipment (sald to be drums of dry cement),which had stove in the Spitfire's packing casesand caused significant damage to the aircraft.Whilst the Spitfires were considered to berepairable, the necessary work could not bedone in time for Operation Insect, which salledfrom Gibraltar on 20 July. In the event, twentynine Spitfires tookoff but one crashed in theprocess leaving twenty eight to arrive safely inMalta despite attempts by the Luftwaffe tointercept them en route.retracted tocode name'OperationLandsman, which wasfirst notified on 9 Julywith the code name'Landsman' beingallocated on 28 July,In the absence of photographs of Spitfiresthat are known to have taken part in OperationInsect, it is currently assumed that they wouldhave been finished in the Malta blue/slate greyscheme (provisionally identified as Deep SkyandDark Slate Grey on the upper surfaces with LightMediterranean Blue on the under surfaces) atGibraltar. That said howrever, because the Maltablue/slate grey scheme was supposed to beappllied, this does not mean that it actually wasapplied to every aircraft. It may be the case thatit was only partly applied or even omittedaltogetherifit was operationally necessary tomeet a deadline to assemble, test and get theSpitfires aboard the carriers in time foranoperation. An outstanding example ofcamouflage policy appearing to be walved, atleast in part for the sake of operationalexpediency, is provided by Operation Bellows,which took place at the same time as the bigMalta convoy, Operation Pedestal, in August.On 29 July 1942 HQMaintenance Commandreceived a signal fromthe Air Ministrynotifying them ofarequirement for fortySpitfires for specialOperationGrinnel,thegive an intermediatesetting and physically holding theaircraft down as the engine was run up tofullpower before suddenlyletting go. Whilst thistechnique was found to give some degree ofa"catapult effect and the test Spitfire didsuccessfully fly off, the trial was consideredunsatisfactory as was a second similar trialcarried out the following evening aftermodifications to the engine had been carriedout to give increased boost.preparatoryphase of what becameOperation Bellows, Loading for OperationGrinnel commenced the following day withtwentyseven Spitfires being embarked. Anotherfourteen Spitfires and what are described as'various stores' were embarked on 30 July andwork commenced to remove the Browning 303machine guns of which there was a plentifulsupply in Malta, in order to reduce the weight ofthe Spitfires to cope better with HMSFurious'relatively short and ramped flight deck.Following the second unsatisfactory trial, thedecision was taken that all the Spitfires wouldhave to be retrofitted with de HavillandHydromatic propellers, which would endow theSpitfires with greater acceleration along thedeck and a much better initial rate of climb onceairborne. The necessary action was put in handimmediately as following the trial that hadtaken place at 17:00 hrs, a number oftelephonecalls were made, which led to a telegram beingsent from the Air Ministry to the MAP. HQ 41
Я говорю не о том, что распознанный текст надо собрать в предложения, это то как раз не проблема. Я говорю о том, что яндекс-транслейтер берет абзац из первого столбца журнальной статьи, после него лепит первый абзац второго столбца и так далее по всей странице. Потратьте еще несколько секунд и сравните статью с тем, что получилось после ваших манипуляций в ворде..
Ладно, разговор ушел не туда. Кому нужен именно ПЕРЕВОД всех частей статьи Лукаса о мальтийских спитфайрах - напишите, пожалуйста, в личку
Я говорю о том, что яндекс-транслейтер берет абзац из первого столбца журнальной статьи, после него лепит первый абзац второго столбца и так далее по всей странице.
Яндекс не запрещает делать и вставлять скрины хоть вдоль, хоть столбцами, хоть выборочно абзацами.
Вы не можете начинать темы Вы не можете отвечать на сообщения Вы не можете редактировать свои сообщения Вы не можете удалять свои сообщения Вы не можете голосовать в опросах Вы не можете вкладывать файлы Вы не можете скачивать файлы